Dold Agenda

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  Is The Internet The Worst Thing That Could Happen To The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  the witnesses try to demonize the internet.

  in your opinion is the internet the biggest problem for the watchtower organization?.

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  Dold Agenda

  Sweden is said to be in the absolute top countries with private Internet-access.
  It firmly exploded about 4 years ago.
  Now virtually every household has 2mbit+.
  
  JW Sweden Baptist stats:
  2007 481
  2008 402
  2009 312!
  
  What does it say to us? except for the significant drop...
  
  Shall we compare Sweden and US
  JW/baptist ratio
  
  US 1.096.502 pubs / 34739 bptzd = 31.6 Witness to accomplish 1 Bptzd.
  SWE 22.054 pubs / 312 bptzd = 71.8 Witness to accomplish 1 Bptzd.
  
  It is very hard for them to find new JW:s here...

  could it have something to do that it is so easy to find information nowadays?
  That the most swedes read english fluently?
  That sweden has very much information out at internet from x-JW:s in swedish language?
  
  I dont know.. but something it is...
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  2009 Annual Worldwide Service Report -- 7.3 Million Publishers

  by Joker10 in

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  china: the number of publishers has increased.

  in some parts of the mainland, they can openly go door to door without much interference.

  there are actally buildings now used as kingdom halls.

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  Dold Agenda

  Interesting...according to these figs they baptized 276000, which is less than last year
  Publishers increased by 188000....where did the missing 88000 go?

  They have died.

  Take 7,046,419 split that with an average lifetime, why not 70,46 years?

  There you have 100.000 statistically

  I guess that many of those that have come to the truth (mostly in developing countries?) the last years, is not of that many old people that will die immediately.. = less dead.
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  Question for still active JW's / Faders

  by cantleave in

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  do you still contribute for literature, give to the worldwide work, kingdom hall fund or contribute towards the upkeep of your local kh?

  if you do - why?.

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  Dold Agenda

  NO WAY!

  I haven't given for about 5 years now, altough i visit some meeting once a year to "show up".

  Since they sold swedens (a huge one) assembly hall for 7M$ some years ago... and no one in sweden know where the money is today...

  ... they can pay all costs by themselves until they make the accounting public!
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  Just curious... how many on here first became JW by door to door work Vs raised in?

  by Aussie Oz in

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  i was raised in from about 10. mum contacted by door to door work.

  oz.

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  Dold Agenda

  Born in, (F-word). Mom in by relative when i was aprox 3 years old.
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  Why should God need a human organisation on earth?

  by Dold Agenda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if i should ask this to a relative jw.... - why should god need a human organisation on earth anyway?.

  what answer will i get?

  any scripts that they probably will show up to support this thinking?.

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  Dold Agenda

  Olin Moyles Ghost

  This is a great answer, exactly what I was searching about!

  We discuss this, your answer, in our sweden xJw-forum right now.http://www.hjalpkallan.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9175

  More of this!

  More input and thinking to this question appreciates!
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  Why should God need a human organisation on earth?

  by Dold Agenda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if i should ask this to a relative jw.... - why should god need a human organisation on earth anyway?.

  what answer will i get?

  any scripts that they probably will show up to support this thinking?.

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  Dold Agenda

  If I should ask this to a relative JW...

  - Why should God need a human organisation on earth anyway?

  What answer will I get?
  Any scripts that they probably will show up to support this thinking?

  Anything that i can say as an answer on that?
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  List of family/friends lost to the Watchtower cult? (suicides)

  by hubert in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading about puternuts (ari) suicide, and also reading about sabine and js losing their daughter to this cult, i think it would be a fitting memorial, so to speak, to write a list of all the people we know who died because of this cult.

  i also know that cruzanheart lost her dad to it, too.

  i'm sure there are many here that can make a list of suicides brought on by the shunning/threatening policies of the watchtower cult.

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  Dold Agenda

  Three more to the swedes list today..
  http://www.hjalpkallan.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8861Yes, they had kill them self, because they couldn't stand't anymore..
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  List of family/friends lost to the Watchtower cult? (suicides)

  by hubert in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after reading about puternuts (ari) suicide, and also reading about sabine and js losing their daughter to this cult, i think it would be a fitting memorial, so to speak, to write a list of all the people we know who died because of this cult.

  i also know that cruzanheart lost her dad to it, too.

  i'm sure there are many here that can make a list of suicides brought on by the shunning/threatening policies of the watchtower cult.

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  Dold Agenda

  Hi, Sweden here.

  I have not seen this thread before here but i actually asked this question in the swedish xJV forum we have a few weeks ago.

  Our betel have, when asked about it from a Journalist, stated that "-JV sweden dont have or has had any suicide connected to Jehovas Witnesses"

  Sweden have about 22.000 witnesses... we have heard about some suicide case here and there, but when we (xJV:s on the forum) collected those we knew about toghether in the first post for the topic, we did really fast (little over one week) came up to over 60 cases in sweden.

  http://www.hjalpkallan.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8861
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  I went to a JW get-together last night

  by BonaFide in

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  2. friends

  so here in the jw complex, well, 90% are jw's, a couple of my friends had a bbq yesterday.

  i was invited.

  they had heard about some of my comments and questions regarding the organization, but i guess they forgot about that.. the friends there were from three different congregations.

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  Dold Agenda

  No, my cover wasn't blown, at least not yet. The reason I post a lot about JW memories is well, people tell me what they think of it. I learn, I grow. I get ripped on this forum. It's good for me. You don't have to read my posts, no one does.

  No, one does... well that it'snt that true..

  I follow your posts all the way from sweden, and doing a little under-cover messages here and there inside to make JW people think here in sweden.
  
  Be careful, i want to read your postings a long time more..

  (Yeah, I know, my english sucks, but what can i do.. try to write some in swedish and you will see)
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  One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  on may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.

  he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.

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  Dold Agenda

  I think you missunderstod a little here.
  
  Ted is Ted.... It's the aftermatch that i am interested in.

  When hes "going for the fjords" i think that it can be som changes in the GB area and maybe some "New light".. *sigh* Mouhaha.

  It's not like LOST... but it can be fun to see if there will happen or change anything.

  Will they finaly give up on 607/1914.. blood.. "peddos", yeah.. you name it.